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Michael Harari
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:46:00 -
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Cost for bridges should go up by more like 500% |
Michael Harari
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:54:00 -
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To explain further - atm the cost to bridge around a 100man bc fleet is about the same as the ammo carried by one of those bcs. Its hilariously cheap. Its cheaper to bridge a jf than to jump it.
Make bridges have a minimum mass/ship (for cost calculations, not the bridging), and massively amp up the cost. |
Michael Harari
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:54:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Resgo wrote:Rather than increasing the size of fuel bays, why not cut the volume of the isotyopes by a third. Then it would carry through all of your systems using the isotopes at fuel. It wouldn't have an impact on POSes as POSes consume fuel blocks that would stay the same size. At first glance this appears to be an excellent idea.
Cutting isotope volume allows people to fit more fuel into non-fuel bays, which you may or may not want to do. |
Michael Harari
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:59:00 -
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Marketing Chairman Stalin wrote:Michael Harari wrote:To explain further - atm the cost to bridge around a 100man bc fleet is about the same as the ammo carried by one of those bcs. Its hilariously cheap. Its cheaper to bridge a jf than to jump it.
Make bridges have a minimum mass/ship (for cost calculations, not the bridging), and massively amp up the cost. STOP POSTING SO BADLY PLS FREND
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Michael Harari
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Posted - 2014.04.29 14:22:00 -
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XavierVE wrote:Grarr Dexx wrote:Another member of CCP showing off that you don't necessarily need brains to get a job in Iceland. He really is the dumbest, isn't he? I haven't seen a single post by Fozzie that was well-thought out, nor a change that really made sense. The game is just as imbalanced prior to his hiring, in some ways, moreso. This is such a stupid change. "We'd like to spur null sec industry! Oh, by the way, now your JF runs cost 50% so you can't import materials as cheaply to do that null-sec industry!" ******* intelligent. The last MMO I played extensively was ruined when the developer went cheap-o and hired "devs" who could do nothing but change numbers. CCP has made the same mistake with this clown. All he can do is randomly change numbers, he can't develop actual content.
You can just titan bridge your jf, its half the cost of jumping it. |
Michael Harari
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Posted - 2014.04.29 14:36:00 -
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Kyt Thrace wrote:I do not claim to be a math expert, but the 50% increase to isotope usage to the 1/3 reduced m3 of isotope, still seems that we are getting screwed & will not be able to carry as much fuel as before.
Should it not be 1/2 reduced m3 of isotope to even it out?
It should not be. |
Michael Harari
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Posted - 2014.04.29 15:32:00 -
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Bridging a 100 man bc gang at max range is ~ 4m. A typical bc might carry that much just in ammo and nanite. Bridging a jump freighter is half the cost of jumping the same jump freighter.
Bridging around 100 frigates costs 280k isk in topes. This is completely backwards - bridging should encourage movement of strategic fleets, and be punitively expensive for moving a bunch of lolfrigates around just because you dont want to take the risk and effort of using jumpgates.
If the cost per ship were locked at what it costs to move a bs (or more like 3-4x that), the costs would be much more reasonable. |
Michael Harari
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Posted - 2014.04.29 15:35:00 -
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Powers Sa wrote:Capqu wrote:i wish you'd stop trying to apply band-aid fixes to power projection and address the actual issues tho What issues?
That the biggest ships in the game are also the fastest, and that moving around large fleets without taking the time or effort to use gates is basically free.
There are many corps that use bridging as a replacement for roaming. You just autopilot your bait around, and when you hear shield alarm you have everyone tab back to eve, and light the cyno. Its promoting mostly afk gameplay, and reduces the risk with moving fleets dramatically. |
Michael Harari
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Posted - 2014.04.29 15:43:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:Michael Harari wrote:Bridging a 100 man bc gang at max range is ~ 4m. A typical bc might carry that much just in ammo and nanite. Bridging a jump freighter is half the cost of jumping the same jump freighter.
Bridging around 100 frigates costs 280k isk in topes. This is completely backwards - bridging should encourage movement of strategic fleets, and be punitively expensive for moving a bunch of lolfrigates around just because you dont want to take the risk and effort of using jumpgates.
If the cost per ship were locked at what it costs to move a bs (or more like 3-4x that), the costs would be much more reasonable. what kind of idiot bridges a jump freighter, if you're bridging you bridge a REGULAR freighter
People do, if you have only 1 titan and have to make 2 jumps, and dont want to move the titan.
Bridging a regular freighter is cheaper than jumping a jump freighter as well. |
Michael Harari
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:11:00 -
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JEFFRAIDER wrote:So we can fit 3x as many isotopes in a single JF load now u say?
Volume is reduced by 1/3, not to 1/3 |
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Michael Harari
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:17:00 -
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[quote=Danilaw] A small Black Ops roaming gang will have a much harder time/quote]
Black ops dont roam |
Michael Harari
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Posted - 2014.04.29 19:02:00 -
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Rena Senn wrote:Isn't jacking up industry export costs going to make nullsec production less competitive, not more? What are you even trying to do here, CCP?
They dont want you competing with highsec. They want highsec to supply (most) of highsec, and for nullsec industry to use local resources and produce for local needs. |
Michael Harari
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Posted - 2014.04.29 21:55:00 -
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Emmy Mnemonic wrote:Hold your horses!
Is there some OTHER change that CCP has not yet revelaed that will make POSes dissapear from the game "en masse" that requires some rebalancing to the isotopes?! Something CCP will only reveal at fanfest perhaps?
Now, let's see here...where are POSes used the most....moon-mining and reactions maybe?
I also saw a new type of mining-frigate linked in-game, a greenish-looking variant of the Venture.
1+1=3 right?
Maybe ringmining for valuable minerals?! Find your R64:s in the ring-belts? ;-)
Thats a very good point, and is part of the problem of releasing interwoven changes piecemeal |
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